Lookas ([info]sier) wrote in [info]lost_tv,
2006-05-25 12:01:00
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Theory based off Season 2 finale regarding Walt.


Ok, so we know Walt can appear places outside of the scope of "reality", based on what the Others said. Maybe the Others are in the same position that our Losties are in - they cant leave or figure out a way. Maybe they are using Walt to communicate with the outside world so they can be let go. It was pretty obvious Fenry wanted the button NOT to be pushed, which obviously lets anyone looking for an electromagnetic anomoly pinpoint the location. That, plus Walt appearing to Penelope Widmore would help them get the hell off the island. It appears to be their goal to communicate with the outside world.

Marvin Candle/Dharma doesn't want this, otherwise they wouldnt have said "dont use the colmputer to communicate". Walt wants to get off the island, therefore he says "dont push the button".


Make sense?

Henry wasn't looking too pleased after the failsafe went off. I think he wanted the end result of not pushing the button, not the failsafe. I think he wanted as long of a beacon to the outside world as possible.



All that aside, I really enjoyed last nights episode. At first, I didn't a all. But now that I have had some time to think about it and digest the information, especially the last 3 minutes, I really thought it was well done.

x-posted.
Tags: s2, theories, walt

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[info]buddhamike

May 25 2006, 22:19:25 UTC 6 years ago

I've heard that both Harold Perrineau and Malcolm David Kelly won't be back next season. Any truth to this?

[info]lisianthia

May 25 2006, 22:20:33 UTC 6 years ago

Not sure about MDK, but HP will be back as a guest star only.

[info]tersa

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[info]bigangry

May 25 2006, 22:21:58 UTC 6 years ago

I remember hearing in this community that they'll be back as guest stars during season three, just not as main cast.

[info]jennifer_thinks

May 25 2006, 23:12:51 UTC 6 years ago

Just because they won't be in Season 3 doesn't mean we won't see them in Season 4! ;-)

[info]lookat_thestars

May 26 2006, 00:32:29 UTC 6 years ago

That's what Harold said on the View this morning, but then he said he watched the season finale and thought differently. He doesn't know for sure either way.

[info]yrnewfrndkaity

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[info]tersa

May 25 2006, 22:23:37 UTC 6 years ago

!Henry and the button

Henry wasn't looking too pleased after the failsafe went off. I think he wanted the end result of not pushing the button, not the failsafe. I think he wanted as long of a beacon to the outside world as possible.

Actually...

In "Lockdown", the alarm went off, Locke was incapacitated, and !Henry was the only one who could have pushed the button.

He said he didn't push the button...but the world didn't go haywire like it did in the two instances when the button wasn't pushed when the hieroglyphs came up (9/22/2004, and in 'real time' during the finale).

So, if !Henry didn't push it, why didn't the world explode? And if he did push it, not only did he lie to Locke about not pushing it, but it would also blow up the theory that he didn't want it pushed.

[info]violet311

May 25 2006, 22:26:56 UTC 6 years ago

Re: !Henry and the button

I see what you are sayin. Seeing as how dangerous it was in the hatch when the button wasnt pushed maybe Henry didnt want to be there when it happened. (Not sure if my run-on sentence makes sense.

[info]clnclarinet

May 25 2006, 22:28:39 UTC 6 years ago

Re: !Henry and the button

Fenry may just not have wanted the button pushed RIGHT THEN, or maybe he wanted Locke to be the one not pushing it. I think he pushed it and then told Locke that he didn't push it in order to make Locke want to not push it later.

Wow, too many negatives, haha.

[info]sier

May 25 2006, 22:31:37 UTC 6 years ago

Re: !Henry and the button

my theory on this is that Henry knew that not pushing the button at that instant might kill or endager him, so he entered the numbers,

Then later, seeded the idea that he didnt with John, so that Henry could get away before John proceeded to let the numbers run down.

Henry seemed to really want to preserve himself, so that makes sense to me.

[info]mananath

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[info]olamina

May 25 2006, 22:33:16 UTC 6 years ago

Re: !Henry and the button

I don't think Henry knows that much about the button.

[info]prdarkstar

May 25 2006, 22:43:00 UTC 6 years ago

Re: !Henry and the button

I agree with you, Henry must have pushed the button. And he obviously knows what not pushing it does since he appeared incredibly upset when that noise began to happen.

BUT Henry also told the losties that button does nothing. That the place was meaningless, wanting them to believe that. So dont know.

[info]skycrashesdown

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[info]sabonasi

May 25 2006, 22:56:58 UTC 6 years ago

Re: !Henry and the button

And if he did push it, not only did he lie to Locke about not pushing it, but it would also blow up the theory that he didn't want it pushed.

Well, some pretty bad shit happens when the button doesn't get pushed. Henry might not want the button to be pushed, but I think he wants it to not be pushed when he's very far away from Swan Station.

[info]erinsonyabean

May 25 2006, 22:57:11 UTC 6 years ago

Re: !Henry and the button

I think that he pushed the button, and then told Locke he didnt so Locke would lose faith and stop pressing it.
Henry refers to him and the other Others as the "Good Ones" and i think that he wanted Locke to lose faith so what ever happened would be on his hands rather than Henrys.

[info]lookat_thestars

May 26 2006, 00:33:05 UTC 6 years ago

Re: !Henry and the button

He probably put in some other code or did something else.

Anonymous

May 26 2006, 17:03:51 UTC 6 years ago

Re: !Henry and the button

what's with this whole !Henry thing? whats the ! for?

[info]nosleepnever

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[info]gwenlister

May 31 2006, 16:15:54 UTC 6 years ago

Re: !Henry and the button

Off topic -- are you a coder? the use of the ! makes me wonder. ;)

[info]tersa

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[info]rednuck

May 25 2006, 22:47:34 UTC 6 years ago

Why do you say it's obvious Fenry didn't want the button pushed? I didn't get that all, so it can't be too obvious.

[info]sier

May 25 2006, 23:02:08 UTC 6 years ago

Well, the only reason I say is because he was trying to get the one guy who REALLY wanted the button pushed to stop pushing it - hence him saying "I didnt press the button". It seems like he wanted to plant that seed in Lockes head so that the button would not get pushed.

[info]lookat_thestars

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[info]sabonasi

May 25 2006, 22:55:27 UTC 6 years ago

Nice post! That beautifully explains why, for instance, Fenry (love it!) would push the button if he didn't want it pushed - he didn't want to be there when it all went down.

One Problem: Fenry lets Walt go...unless you think that he knows Michael and Walt won't get far.

Something to Add: Fenry said that if you leave the Island, you can't return. Fenry might have been trying to use Walt to circumvent this.

[info]buggyakaevan

May 25 2006, 23:21:15 UTC 6 years ago

when did walt appear to penelope?

[info]twinkieluv

May 26 2006, 00:24:32 UTC 6 years ago

yea, that's what i'm wondering too. I don't think the others are stuck on the island, since Fenry seems to know how to get off, or at least he says once you're out you can't come back. not sure i'm really following this theory

[info]chiefseamonkey

May 26 2006, 02:26:31 UTC 6 years ago

I don't think he did. I think that's part of the theory.

[info]sier

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[info]elealyan

May 25 2006, 23:54:28 UTC 6 years ago

Relating to the previously discussed Fenry issue about him knowing what happens when the counter runs out.

When Desmond accidentally killed the Inman man (Heh, Inman man.) I just immediatly thought "He's not dead yet!" for no apparent reason. After all, Desmond just saw the blood from his head, and ran. Didn't check for a pulse or anything. It's possible that he was just unconscious and that the Others found him. He might have been staying with them, and shared his knowledge of the hatch and the button. It probably started to turn to heiroglyphics at least once during his stay, though not nescessarily to the system failure part, as happened to Locke.

Anyways, there's my theory of large-comment proportions.

Anonymous

May 26 2006, 00:48:23 UTC 6 years ago

If it was their goal to communicate with the outside world, why would they go to all the trouble of getting the Losties? They have at least 10-15 people in their crew, I'm sure someone could have taken the boat and gone for help. Seems to me that the Others aren't planning on going anywhere, and certainly aren't trying to be 'found'.

[info]fixedzero

May 26 2006, 00:48:59 UTC 6 years ago

oops, this was me.

[info]sier

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